Baby Reindeer's 'real-life Martha' exposed as she confronts Piers Morgan in explosive TV showdown

Piers Morgan has interviewed the woman accused of being Baby Reindeer's 'real-life' Martha
Piers Morgan has interviewed the woman accused of being Baby Reindeer's 'real-life' Martha -Credit:PA


The woman accused of being Baby Reindeer's 'real-life' Martha has gone head to head with interviewer Piers Morgan in a TV clash.

She recorded her first "big TV interview" with the controversial broadcaster earlier this week in which she aims to "set the record straight".

But she told the Daily Record she was "not happy" with Piers' questioning after the interview was recorded in London ahead of its broadcast tomorrow.

She described the conversation as a "sparring match" and was forced to refute claims by Piers that she "loved" Richard Gadd, who created and starred in the smash-hit Netflix series, Baby Reindeer.

Jessica Gunning plays 'Martha' in Baby Reindeer
Jessica Gunning plays 'Martha' in Baby Reindeer -Credit:Ed Miller/Netflix

In the 30-minute show, planned for broadcast on Piers' YouTube channel later this week, the Scottish law graduate will talk openly about being named as comedian Richard's alleged stalker.

She will be grilled regarding allegations that she became obsessed with the Fife-born comedian over a period of years - inspiring the character of Martha in Richard's hit Netflix drama, which is based on a true story.

The woman told how Piers refused to accept her denial that she stalked Richard, saying: "There was a heavy emphasis from Piers Morgan on Gadd and the emails I am supposed to have sent."

"I have my own thoughts on it that I'd like to keep to myself but I wouldn't say I was happy. It was very rapid to try to trip me up. He did it fast paced to catch me off guard."

"Piers kept saying to me 'are you sure you haven't sent this guy 41,000 emails and phone calls?'. A lot of the interview, for a good 10 minutes, he kept coming back to this."

"I said, 'Look, Even if I had sent some emails, it doesn't mean I'm guilty of the rest of the stuff. As I said, in order to bill something as a true story, it's got to be pretty much 100% true."

"It seemed to me that I was set up. I feel a bit used."

The woman, who says she was paid only £250 for the interview, added: "Piers said it went well. He referred to it as a sparring match. He landed a few punches on me and I landed a few punches on him."

"He asked me if I loved Richard Gadd and I said you've got to be joking."

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Richard Gadd created and starred in Baby Reindeer, which is said to be based on events in his own life -Credit:Netflix

Telling how the interview with Piers was set up, she said: "Piers contacted me last week about going on his show and, of course, I agreed. This Morning and everybody else has been chasing me."

"I've had people telling me they are publicists or agents but it's difficult to know who to trust. I've had people using the most foul language on the phone telling me they could make me a lot of money."

"How all these people got my phone number I just don't know but it's been hell. Then Piers and his people got in touch and I said yes because he's the best of them all and is seen by an awful lot of people."

She added: "I told him that I'd need to get my hair done because I didn't want to look like that actress who played me in the show. I had to pick what to wear which was difficult because I had just moved house and couldn't find anything.

"I had all my clothes out the night before. I wanted to look my best in front of the camera."

The 30-minute Piers Morgan Uncensored special is set to air on the broadcaster's YouTube channel, which has 2.58 million subscribers, later this week.

He previously presented ITV's Good Morning Britain but left the station in 2021 after comments he made about Oprah with Harry and Meghan.

The woman said: "He is the biggest interviewer out there and has the biggest show so obviously I was going to speak to him. Piers sent a car to pick me up and drop me off."

"I let him know what was off limits. I told him I wouldn't talk about boyfriends or my family."

Before her interview, she paid a visit to celebrity hairdresser John Hala at his salon in London's Canary Wharf.

Hala, who has styled A list celebrity clients such as Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sigourney Weaver, Elle MacPherson, Kate Moss and Eva Herzigova, said: "We kept her in the VIP room while she was waiting because we didn't want the place overrun with paparazzi. Then she left for her interview with Piers.

"The whole Netflix situation has blown up not just in the UK but around the world and I hope things work out for her. She should do very well off the back of her interview."

The former lawyer gave up her anonymity to speak out in the Record earlier this month after internet sleuths tracked her down as the real-life Martha from the Netflix hit show Baby Reindeer.

In the show Fife-born comic Richard, 34, plays a fictionalised version of himself called Donny Dunn who is ruthlessly stalked by a Scot called Martha. The show tells viewers it is a "true story".

Richard asked viewers not to try and track down the real-life Martha. But they defied his plea and found clues that revealed her identity, including references to a Baby Reindeer bar scene in which Martha asks for help getting her curtains hung only to face a barrage of innuendo.

English actress Jessica Gunning, 38, plays Martha, a Scottish woman in her 40s who, like Harvey, lives in Camden and studied law. The TV show has become the most viewed programme on Netflix in 30 countries and is billed by the streaming channel as a true story.

The woman accused says she is now mulling over legal action against both the comedian and Netflix over the character Martha who is depicted being sent to prison twice, once for a historical crime of stalking and again for stalking Richard.

In real life, she was given a police warning for her conduct involving Richard but has never been to prison or convicted for stalking.

In 2017, Richard complained to police that he was being stalked by her. which led to a First Instance Harassment Warning being issued against her.

She is believed to have sent him more than 40,000 emails, 350 hours of voicemail, 744 tweets, 46 Facebook messages and 106 pages of letters.

OK! has contacted Piers' reps for comment.

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