'Wayne Couzens Flashed Me - And The Police Laughed,' Says Radio DJ Emma B

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Magic FM DJ Emma Wilson, more commonly known by her radio name of Emma B, has waived her right to an anonymity to reveal she was flashed by killer Wayne Couzens in 2008.

In an interview with The Telegraph, the radio personality said that the former police officer had exposed himself to her 13 years before he killed Sarah Everard.

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Photo credit: Andrew Benge - Getty Images

'I really wouldn't say anything out loud if I wasn't very sure, because it's important and it's serious, but as soon as I saw the pictures of him, I said 'That's him’,’ she told the newspaper.

She added that the police laughed when she reported the incident, saying that ‘they laughed when I was describing the graphic bits and what he was doing, they thought that bit was particularly funny’.

‘The reason why I’m saying something is because now a girl is dead,’ she said. ‘I have a daughter who’s at university. As a mother, I’m thinking if somebody didn’t say something, and that resulted in my daughter’s death, I wouldn’t be able to live with that.’

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Photo credit: Met Police

Wilson described how she had dropped her five-year-old daughter off at school and was walking down Tunnel Avenue in Greenwich, pushing her baby son in a pram.

‘It’s quite a busy road, not a residential one,’ she said. ‘And somebody shouted: “Hey!’” and I looked over and there was a man, and he had his trousers down and he was exposing himself ... it was horrific - and I had my baby with me.’

‘He’d obviously positioned himself in a place where nobody else could see him, so the trajectory was spot on. He was in an alleyway where the line of vision wasn’t left or right, the only person that could see him would have been me. He’d obviously thought about it because he’d shouted at the right moment… I was really scared.’

‘Your instant thought is that there’s going to be more. I don’t know why anybody would think that flashing is a standalone, innocuous thing to do - it’s not, it’s aggressive and awful.’

After ringing the police, she said that later that day, a male and female officer came to her house. ‘They sat on my sofa, and I was telling them, and it was obviously graphic, and they laughed,’ she said.

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Photo credit: Anadolu Agency - Getty Images

‘This is why I want to say something. They thought it was funny, and I said “I’m not sure what you think’s funny,” and they were just very nonplussed about it. And I remember saying to them at the time: “I hope this is all he needs to do.” My husband remembers me saying that to them. And then, nothing happened, I didn’t hear anything else. I think they said they were going to drive around the block to see if they could see anything, but they didn’t.’

Wilson has now complained to the force, who have confirmed that officers from its professional standards team are investigating.

In 2015, Couzens was accused of indecent exposure and Kent Police have been criticised for an alleged failure to investigate.

Just weeks before Sarah Everard’s murder, Couzens was again accused of indecent exposure and, once again, there are suggestions the police failed to properly investigate the matter.

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Photo credit: Matthew Horwood - Getty Images

Last weekend, another victim claimed that Couzens had attacked them years previously.

A drag performer alleges he was in costume when Couzens molested him at a bar, before propositioning him for sex in an alleyway. Detectives are currently investigating.

There is mounting pressure on the police to take accountability for what has been seen as systematic abuse of power within the force.

2,000 police officers have been accused of sexual misconduct in the past four years, and there have been multiple accounts from female police officers of male officers making misogynistic and sexist jokes.

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